My Love/Hate Relationship With Windows

JUST A HEADS UP! This is a long post. Go get a water or something before continuing.

As some of you, who follow me on Twitter have seen, I posted an opinion about Microsoft last night:
Yes, it was a but much but here is what my past seven days has been like. I’ve been dying to try out Windows 7 since I’m still running on XP on my gaming machine and was looking forward to having a Windows box thats just as useful as my Mac. The only thing holding me back is my saved games through Steam. Even then I didn’t really care too much, I just wanted to finish playing Fallout: New Vegas before I formatted because I didn’t want to go through backing up a bunch of files.

SUNDAY:

Anyway I beat the game, yay for me, and I feel comfortable formatting everything and starting fresh.I didn’t backup my drive, nothing I couldn’t reinstall was on there and I had nothing important to save. I throw the disk in, do a complete format and install from disk and everything is working fine. The installation completes and it’s time to boot into Windows for the first time. It’s starts loading Windows and I get this:

So I restart, I restart agan, and again. I start in Safe Mode…which didn’t work because I needed to go through my first boot normally to complete the installation. I was suck and very annoyed. I figure it’s something with my graphics card so I start Googling “Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT No Signal Windows 7” and I get a lot of angry forum posts back on other people complaining about the same thing. 3 hours later I’ve had it with reading through them all. People complaining about the same thing and none of them had answers all while Nvidia and Microsoft say the card is certified and compatible with Windows 7. So I’m stuck and I’m done for the night.

MONDAY:

Bring my computer into work. I try reinstalling Windows in my down time, still no dice. @APIguy gives me a hand and opens up one of our Mac Pro’s in the office and hands me a Nvidia 9600 graphics card, which was the only one in the office that fist since I have PCIX slots. (Nerd Speak) Bam, windows loads fine, I can complete my setup and get my first look into Windows 7. I boot in safe mode and reinstall my drivers then shut down and swap the cards back out. Boot normally and again….no signal. WTF. I boot into safemode with my 9800 and it works. I try reinstalling the drivers. I download driver cleaner to wipe the old drivers out. Nothing…no signal. So I boot with both graphics cards. And the 9600 from the other mac works! And Windows 7 recognizes there are two cards in the box and gives me the option to plug in up to three monitors. WOOO! If it only f*cking worked! Later that night, another 4 hours going through forums and digging for info. I found one topic that helped. Apparently Windows overrides the installed drivers when it’s thinks theirs are better. It was a how-to on stopping windows from auto installing it’s own drivers when new devices are plugged in. oooOOHHHHhhh Windows you son of a bitch. I boot in safe mode, shut off that “feature” and boot Windows normally and voila, Windows 7 Boots on my graphics card. YAAAAAAYYY! I download some updates and install Steam and start bringing my games down. 1 hour later I try launching Left 4 Dead 2………Sorry, the program has crashed. What??…okay how about Team Fortress 2………crash. WTF?? I reinstall graphics drivers update the computer…..crash, crash, crash. I’m done with 7. I’m done for tonight. Time for bed.

TUESDAY:

Boot into Windows….launch L4D2…Crash….shutdown.

WEDNESDAY:

Got My XP DVD. Boot from disk and I start installing:

An hour later I get into Windows. Home sweet home. I start installing my network and system drivers. and of course spend another two hours installing updates:

Everything is updated and it’s time to restart…..and then I get….no signal.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU……..

20 Minutes later….

Okay. I start digging for old drivers. Clearly something is wrong with Nvidia playing nicely with windows. So I boot in safe mode, find the archived drivers on the Nvidia website and catch an old driver from 2009 and reinstall the old drivers. Holy Crap it works again. I finally download Steam again and an hour later have L4D2 installed. And to my amazement….

I got to play. I’m now back where I started and I have my gaming PC back. In the end it took me 11 hours over three days to find out Windows doesn’t play nice with my graphics cards Windows 7 Drivers. I’ll be doing more testing later on another partition but for now I’m sticking with XP. So, all versions of windows seem to be having problems with the 260.99 version Nvidia Drivers. I had installed the 197.45 version drivers and those seem to be working okay. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s time to game.


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2 responses to “My Love/Hate Relationship With Windows”

  1. Bryan Avatar

    So I’ve tried the advanced games that require some fancy hardware requirements and noticed the same thing it’s very difficult migrating up to a new OS sometimes the games don’t play the same way.

    Windows 7 can be great for somethings, and if you bought a new PC with W7 loaded on it it might run better, but you should be able to upgrade with your current machine.

    I think it’s probably incredible difficult for Microsoft to maintain so many PC to be compatible with their new OS.

    Did you try the compatibility software test before upgrading? I’m just curious because I did and it passed yet I had to hack around to get the screen to turn on. LOL.. anywho.. your back up and running.

    Maybe you should install windows 7 on your mac cause the hardware is better LOL.

  2. christocarroll Avatar

    I didn’t realize there was a program that could check the comp before I installed it. Although I’m sure it would have said pass since Microsoft and Nvidia both say the card is certified to work on Windows 7. It just looks like the latest Nvidia drivers are not compatible for DVI input. It seems it only supports VGA, which I don’t have on the card.

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